Demand an investigation into their investigations
WHEN 2 BECOME 1
Ryan Lanza. The glitch in the story that is Sandy Hook. Originally named as the suspect, Ryan remains an enigma. An itch I can't scratch. He is always on my back burner. From the very beginning of my research, Ryan has always peeked my Sherlock Holmes instinct.
I've never understood why investigators believed he was involved at all when there was zero evidence against him (or so we're told). It wasn't because Adam had his ID, because he didn't. It wasn't because their names were transposed because they were both suspects. And clearly, it wasn't a media f**k up like so many people believe. He was legitimately named as a suspect. But why? And how did they determine he wasn't?
Unfortunately, like so much of this case, the officials have left this topic off the table as well. Leaving us researchers scratching our heads trying to sort through the heavily redacted documents and the third person narratives that all conflict with one another to find any semblance of an answer.
Before I begin, I'd like to note that there were 3 active scenes that day.
1. Adam and Nancy Lanza's home at 36 Yogananda St. in Sandy Hook
2. Sandy Hook Elementary School
3. Ryan Lanza's apartment at 1313 Grand St. in Hoboken, NJ
All 3 scenes are important to this story but because all 3 scenes were active at the same time, it might be difficult to keep up with the story chronologically. I will try to do my best, but please forgive me if I fail. I'd also like to apologize if things get a bit redundant. I'll be jumping back and forth between radio transmission transcripts and CAD reports a lot. As well as going back and forth to each location.
As per the point of this article, this story begins at 9:42:39 with Newtown's Officer Penna's radio transmission:
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00179629 p. 3
This was the first time the plate # was ever announced and the first time law enforcement had a clue as to who the possible suspect(s) was/were. However, they wouldn't know the name just yet.
One of the first individuals to see Adam was Officer Smith from Newtown. At 9:51:31 he radio'd "92... we've got one suspect down." (page 5 from the same document above - 92 is Smith's assigned unit number and this can be confirmed in CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00155856). Because the #1 priority upon responding to an active shooter is to assess the scene and neutralize the threat, the officers didn't go checking for an ID and kept truckin' along.
The plate is radio'd again, but by Connecticut State Police's Michael O'Donnell at 10:05:15:
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00156882 p. 14
Even though O'Donnell was informed just after 10:10 that they ran the plate, no name was mentioned, as you can see below.
It may be nothing.. but it should be known that O'Donnell had been inside Room 10 and saw the suspect before this conversation. Although he only went in, looked around and left (meaning he didn't search for a wallet or anything), I'm still interested to know why he didn't at least give a physical description. Maybe those things were irrelevant? You can find his report in CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00030931.
I also find it interesting that he never asked for the name. Either way, it needs to be noted that he did ask to run any males with the last name they had just received. This marks the beginning of the search for Adam and Ryan.
The plate is once again called out. This time by Lt. (MSgt.) Davis (he had just got promoted to Lt. that day -CFS 1200704559 Book 300005618).
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00156882 p. 24
Finally, at 10:36:14, the name Lanza was given:
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00179629 p. 11
The information was submitted into their CAD (Computer Aided Dispatch) at 10:39:13. You can find this in CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00259480 on page 14 and CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00250882 on page 11.
At about the same time, Lt. Vanghele (Newtown) met up with SRO (School Resource Officer) Jason Flynn and asked him to view the deceased male in the school, in an attempt to ID him.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00002060 p.6 "I then attempted to locate SRO Jason Flynn and have him report to my location. I wanted SRO Flynn to look at the suspect's face to see if he might be able to make a positive identification. My belief was that the suspect might have attended Newtown High School where SRO Flynn had been assigned for the last five years. When SRO Flynn arrived on scene I led him inside the school and to the body of the suspect. Officer Flynn looked closely at the suspect but could not identify him. I then led Officer Flynn outside the building. The last name of the owner of the vehicle came back as "Lanza" of 36 Yogananda Lane. I gave this name to Officer Flynn but he did not know the name. Officer Flynn stated that he would attempt to access the Newtown High School student database in an attempt to identify the individual and any possible associates."
Yes, he does state Lane not street. But it's not important here. Anyways... In Flynn's account, he was given the name Lanza before going into the school. But I'm not going to make a big deal about it. Regardless, it happened around the time the name became known on scene.
CFS 1200704559 Book 00028277 p.2 "I responded to Sandy Hook Elementary School and I met with Lt. Vanghele. I do not recall the time that I arrived at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Lt. Vanghele informed me the vehicle that was parked near the entrance to the school was believed to be the suspect's. I observed that vehicle which was a newer model Honda Civic. I oberserved the passenger side front and passenger side rear doors were both open. I also observed there were two black jackets or sweaters on the ground a short distance away from the vehicle. Lt. Vanghele informed me that the vehicle was registered to a person with the last name Lanza. I did not recognize the last name. Lt. Vanghele then asked if I would enter the scene to try and possibly identify the suspect. We then entered the school through the main entrance. We then went left down the hallway where I observed to deceased bodies. We then entered the classroom where the suspect was. I observed the suspect deceased. The suspect laying faced down and slightly to his right side so most of his face was visible. I observed the suspect had an apparent gunshot wound to his head. I did not recognize the suspect. I then exited the school the same way I entered. I then checked the schools student database for the last name Lanza. There were no current students in the database with the last name Lanza."
These statements are very telling.
1. Despite the incompetence that plagued this entire case, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have first checked for a wallet or some kind of identification on the suspect or in the vehicle. But there is no mention of an ID anywhere. Flynn was asked to see the deceased face and see if he recognized him. They were then given the last name Lanza (after running the plate on the car), but didn't recognize the last name.
We already know for a fact that Adam was not carrying his own ID. It was located within his wallet that was found underneath the 2nd floor bathroom sink at his house.
CFS 1200704559 Book 3 00025726 p. 8
You can see it underneath the cell phone and cell phone battery.
Sec 4 Primary Scene #360
Because I have found myself debating with a person who claimed that this was NOT a wallet, I feel the need to be thorough just in case.
It is a military style wallet. I have owned one myself. You can buy them online, even at Walmart, and obviously, at surplus stores, which is where I bought mine.
Here's a listing at Walmart.
And here is a screenshot (with a link) to a surplus store.
2. If he had really carried Ryan's ID on him that day, wouldn't they have been able to immediately dispel the notion that the guy laying dead at their feet was Ryan? Just look at them!
Apparently Connecticut's DMV is lacking funds cause the quality of Adam's photo is almost the equivalent to security cam footage from Walmart. Regardless, they are very different looking. To me, it's most obvious in the nose. Adam's is rounded, where Ryan's is pointed.
Maybe it's just me, but at this point, I think it's very clear that there was no ID at the scene. Not Adam's or Ryan's.
At 10:51:17, a team was formed to respond to 36 Yogananda St.
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00184096 p. 26 - 27 / CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00179629 p. 13
The team got there at 11:01:58:
CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00184096 p. 28 / CFS 1200704559 Book 4 00179629 p. 15
At 11:21, officers on Yogananda St. interviewed a neighbor.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00250882 p. 17
Nope, you're not seeing things, it really does state that a neighbor said that Ryan lived there not Adam. But what's that redaction all about? Are they redacting the last name Lanza? Cause that's just effin strange. Is it another name? Who else could it have been if not Adam? Obviously they wouldn't redact his name.... right? We know that the phone number given is legit (it was the house phone) so this person had to know Nancy at least a little. (the phone number can be confirmed in CFS 1200704559 Book 3 00095746 along with Sec. 3 Supplemental Reports p. 261).
At 11:47, 2 suspect names were finally announced:
Sec 13 - Supplemental Reports p. 261
It is my belief, that they got this information from their DMV blowbacks. It is documented that they got blowbacks for all 4 Lanzas, but it's never stated when (you can find this document in CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00003277).
And now begins the story in Hoboken, New Jersey (where Ryan lived).
Hoboken's CAD report states that they got the call from Connecticut at 11:39:00. While this is a 8 minute discrepancy (from the time Connecticut officials were given the name Ryan), I think it's reasonable to believe that upon receiving Ryan's info, their #1 priority was to alert Hoboken and everyone else second.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 6
I would love to know what all that redaction is all about, and who told them that the shooter was killed by officers..But not important right now.
What is important, is that Hoboken was told that their suspect (Ryan) was found dead at the school and that Hoboken received Ryan's DMV info upon getting the call, as you can see below in Sgt. Christopher Labruno's statement (he was one of the first officers on scene).
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 21
Ignoring that he stated that they got the call around 11..... this further proves that investigators had access to his DMV info. And I highly doubt that it was just New Jersey.
Here's something that has always caught my attention. Hoboken was ordered to NOT enter Ryan's apartment until Connecticut officials could confirm information regarding the Lanza family.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 16
This order remained active the entire time.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 26
What was this information? It must've been quite important given the situation. Ryan was the suspect of the mass murder of 26 people (they hadn't found Nancy's body yet), and Hoboken officials were also told that his father (Peter) was dead inside the apartment (I covered this in "Peter Lanza Dead In Hoboken"). To me, it makes zero logic that such an order would be given.
Meanwhile, back at Sandy Hook Elementary.... room 12's first grade teacher, Kaitlin Roig (now Roig-Debellis) realized that she didn't have her cell phone and began to panic. She believed that a suspect had stolen it from her classroom and informed law enforcement at the scene.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00003242
(That last sentence I highlighted will be important later).
Because they were still under the impression that there was at least one other suspect (at large), they immediately began the process of trying to get a location on her phone. Once they got the ok, they began pinging her phone. First ping, came at 11:55 (CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00257980). According to the document pictured above, the phone was within 32 meters of the school and FBI Todd Brogan stated that "he thought it was most likely still inside the school, or very close to it."
For some reason, none of them thought that it'd be a good idea to go into the school to check. Instead, they formed a team, geared up and headed down towards Apex Glass. A company that was just down the road from the school (it is the red building I circled in yellow).
From Sec 13 Aerial Photos #2
(You can watch them searching the area in the footage below).
Here's where it gets even more interesting, and further proves that Ryan was indeed a suspect.
At about the same time Roig-Debellis was alerting law enforcement about her phone, TFC Michael W Fitzsimons was assigned to attempt locating the cell phones of Ryan's roommates Jessica O'Brien and Michael Shapiro (CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00003344).
On the forms they read.. that there were suspects and accomplices at large and that these numbers were linked to the suspects.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00003344 p.3
Did you catch that? Neither Ryan's or Adam's phone was on that list. They are attempting to locate ONLY Ryan's roommates but neither of the suspects.
We know that Adam didn't have a phone on him, because it's not listed anywhere in the evidence seized from the school list, nor was it listed as personal belongings/clothing (as you can see below from the full evidence list at the school).
CFS 1200704597 00101811 p. 11
It's also never mentioned in any of the police reports or even the scene processing report (CFS 1200704597 00118939).
There was however, an LG phone found underneath the 2nd floor bathroom sink (at his house - along with the wallet that we have previously discussed) with it's battery out that we are told was Adam's cell. You can find this in: CFS 1200704559 Book 3 00025726 p. 8 CFS 1200704559 Book 3 00051204 CFS 1200704559 Book 3 00111604
(yes, there appears to be some discrepancies in the phone's data but let's save that for another time).
So even if they were at all interested in locating his phone, they wouldn't have been able to. But it doesn't even sound as if they even tried.
Sec 5 - Back-up Scene 1 #373
But according to Hoboken PD, Connecticut officials thought that the deceased suspect inside the school was Ryan. Who did have an active phone and was even using it that day.
On his way home, Ryan posted a few times on Facebook, on his cell phone.
Let's recap. They have 2 suspects. 1 is dead inside the school, who they believe is Ryan Lanza and he doesn't have a phone on him. They were somehow able to obtain the cell phone numbers to both of his roommates and were tracing their locations, but there is 0 indication that they were interested in locating his, or his brother's who was also a suspect. Does this sound right to you? What if his accomplice (his brother or someone else) had his phone, and locating his phone would lead them to locating other suspects? Was this just a HUGE oversight? Were these documents just "lost"? Is there a legitimate reason why they didn't try to locate their suspects's phones that I'm just not seeing?
Remember earlier, when I said that the last sentence I highlighted would become important? Let's re-read it.
This means, that they were pinging a cell phone BEFORE they even began the process of pinging Roig-Debellis's phone.
It wasn't until 1:01, when they received the ping results for Ryan's roommate's phones. Michael's was located in Long Beach, California and Jessica's was located in Hoboken, New Jersey (CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00003344 p. 2).
This implies that they were pinging a third phone that day! But who's? There is no documentation for this anywhere. Did they really ping Ryan's and "lost" the documents?
Perhaps it was another phone entirely. Apparently Roig-Debellis was not the only person at the school to have lost a phone that day.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00014533 p.6
It sure would be nice if there were some kind of documentation for this third phone ping. No documentation leaves too much room for speculation. But we can speculate later. For now, let's just settle with knowing that there is a possibility that they could've attempted to ping Ryan's phone (along with someone else's as well).
Some time in the afternoon in Stamford, Connecticut, Peter Lanza was at work at GE Capital.
"Peter went to get lunch at work and found colleagues clustered around a television. Shocked by the developing news, Peter said, “Both my kids went to that school,” and went back to his office. Then news reports mentioned that a twenty- and a twenty-four-year-old were involved (the ages of his two sons) and that the shooter had attended the school. Unable to get any work done, he drove home to watch the coverage." (source)
The earliest time I can find any reports in the media for a 20 or 24 year old suspect was at 1:17 pm.
Now back at Sandy Hook Elementary (told you we'd be going back and forth a lot) At 1:20 they got a second ping for Roig-Debellis's phone, within the same area. Here's a photo showing where they believed the pings were.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00257980 p. 3
While they were conducting the search after the second ping, Roig-Debellis decides it's time to leave.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00006246 p. 3
Yup, she believes one of the shooters that just murdered a ton of kids and educators in the classrooms next to hers has her phone. She's worried that he/she has access to her personal information and there's an active search for her phone. But she apparently feels that it's not important enough to stick around.
Just for the naysayers, we even have her on video leaving.
And now back to Peter...... By the time Peter got home, news reporter Maggie Gordon was already there. She relayed to him that someone linked to his address was involved in the shooting. Shooken up by this, Peter just went inside his house and began watching the news.
Here is an interview with Maggie.
And.... now back at the school. At 1:28 it was reported that nurse Sally Cox and secretary Barbara Halstead were discovered in the main office storage closet.
Sec 13 - Supplement Reports p. 262
Somehow, while law enforcement was using the main office as a command center, and had already done several sweeps of the school, they missed 2 people in a closet. Yes, this is strange. And yes, it will be discussed. Just not right now. All we need to know right now, is that they were found around 1:30. There is a point, I promise.
Here's where it starts getting chaotic and confusing, so bear with me here.
At 1:43 Nancy's body was found in her bed. An ambulance was requested at 1:46.
Sec 13 - Supplement Reports p. 262
It was dispatched at 1:50.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00259480 p. 36
Also at 1:50, Ryan called Nancy and Adam's house phone.
Sec 13 - Supplement Reports p. 209
Finally, a suspect's name is given to the public. Mr. Ryan Lanza. The earliest report I could find was at 2:11.
According to his interview with Andrew Solomon, as Peter heard Ryan's name on the news he "knew better" (I'm assuming this means that he knew it'd be Adam not Ryan). He immediately called his wife Shelly stating "It’s Peter. I think it’s Adam." "It’s Peter, it’s Peter, it’s Adam." "I think it’s Adam, it’s Adam." She immediately left work.
As soon as Shelly got home they called Ryan and then began their 2 hour trip to Hoboken.
Unfortunately, Ryan's interviews are mostly redacted and he has never given a public interview of any kind so we have no idea how he really found out that he was being named a suspect. According to this article, he heard it on the news at work. But it sounds more likely that he was first made aware of it by his father. Regardless, he leaves work (at Ernst & Young in New York) and heads home on a bus.
Meanwhile, the nationwide manhunt for Roig-Debellis's phone meets an abrupt stop at 2:14 when Sprint attempted another ping but failed (CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00257980 p. 1). The way they make it sound, is that they just stopped and returned to the school. Where apparently... her phone was located the whole time!
Walkley - scene photos #660
It can be confirmed that this was her phone in CFS 1200704597 00187025 p. 92 Photo #659 and pg. 93 Photo #660.
At this point, news outlets are now reporting that a body was found at 36 Yogananda St. in Sandy Hook, CT. The earliest report I could find was this video from ctnow. The reporter states that an ambulance had just pulled up to the house.
According to Sec 13 - Supplemental Reports p. 262 they arrived at 2:14. The CAD report places it at 2:22 (CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00259480 p. 38)
On his way home, Ryan began posting on Facebook declaring his innocence.
At his apartment.... police had been knocking on his apartment door nearly every 15 minutes for the past 2 hour or so with negative results, despite his roommate Jessica being there. She even outs herself on one of Ryan's Facebook posts.
So.... I have to side track for a sec. It's hard to determine the exact time within the timeline this occurred, but officers in Hoboken were asked to keep radio chatter to a minimum and use personal phones instead.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00168555 p. 27
Some people think that this is proof that they were doing something deceptive. However, judging by what he's also talking about, it sounds as if Grand St. was becoming a media circus and the shooting was already being discussed on a national level. I don't know how easy it is to gain access to the right police channel, but I imagine that they were trying to avoid such a situation from happening. This doesn't mean they had anything to hide, just that by doing this, it could prevent wild speculations from reaching the media, and thus.. the public.
Here's a couple of photos from Hoboken for you to get a general idea of what the scene looked like at about that time. And here is the source for these photos.
Some time before 2:29, Ryan is seen walking down the street near his apartment building. I say 2:29 because Hoboken's CAD shows that they were leaving with Ryan to HQ for questioning at this time, as you can see below.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 7
It can be confirmed that it was Ryan by reading Burke's report which is on pages 11 - 13 and Lepre's report that is on pages 16 - 18.
He was seen raising his hands above his head yelling "Please don't kill me! It wasn't me that killed all those people! You are looking for my brother! It was my brother who murdered everybody! My brother just killed my mom too!" (page 17)
He was asked how he knew any of that and his reply was that his father Peter had told him, and that it was all over social media.
Now remember, they were told that Ryan was dead in Connecticut. But here he was. He matched the DMV photo they had and.... wait for it..... had 2 forms of ID on him. He had a photo ID from Ernst & Young along with his New Jersey license.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 12 - 13
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 17
Of course they called Connecticut, and they requested that they send photographs of the deceased victim in the school. From the photos given, they determined that the guy at the school was not Ryan.
CFS 1200704597 00025240 p. 1
Of course, all the identification photos are redacted. The closest we can get is this photo below (which is on page 6).
It wasn't until Ryan showed up, when Jessica finally opened the apartment door. When asked why she hadn't ansered the door for the last 2 1/2 hours, she claimed that she thought it was FedEx knocking.
CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 18
While I agree that this excuse is absolutely absurd, I believe that it's possible that she was just scared out of her freakin mind and came up with a really bad lie. C'mon... does FedEx really make it a habit to konock every 15 minutes for 2 1/2 hours like a cop stating things like "Hoboken Police" "HPD"?? Of course not. But I can't even imagine what was going through her mind at the time.
Eventually Ryan was handcuffed and brought into Hoboken's Police station for questioning. Here's a few news clips.
Again, his interviews are heavily redacted (besides some info regarding Adam). The only things that aren't redacted and has nothing to do with Adam was that he left for work sometime before 9, bought a coffee at Dunkin Donuts with his Bank of America card and got to work at 9:45.
FBI 1 of 3 p. 132
Peter showed up to the station around 4:00 (CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00188555 p. 7) and by 9:00, both of them were leaving the station and the case was considered closed in Hoboken by FBI Joel Mack. (also on page 7). Here are a few photos.
And without any official explanation for why Ryan was called a suspect and how they deduced that he wasn't, we were told to just accept 1 of the 3 fairy tales spun by the media (Adam had Ryan's ID, his name was transposed and the media named the wrong guy), forget the whole thing and to walk away. If we bring it up, we get rolling eyes and insults (as usual).
So.. where did this ID myth come from? Oddly, Ryan himself.
But it's complete bullshit (pardon my language).
1. Adam having Ryan's ID would mean that they thought that Adam was Ryan. Meaning, 1 suspect. But clearly both were suspects.
2. If Adam really had Ryan's ID, it would've been mentioned in police reports. SRO Jason Flynn and Lt. Vanghele's perhaps (since they were trying to ID their suspect).
3. It would've also been listed in evidence seized at the school, which includes items and clothing found on Adam. But it's not.
4. I don't believe for a second, that any officer would've looked at Adam, then looked at Ryan's photo and said "yup, they look exactly the same, this guy is Ryan Lanza".
5. Unless they considered it important evidence that needed to be kept for the duration of the investigation, there would've been a return to owner document for this ID. But there isn't.
6. For any of this to make sense, it would've had to of been an old Connecticut driver's license, since Ryan was carrying his New Jersey one that day. Seeing how he claims that he had not seen Adam since 2010, claiming that Adam stole a more current ID from him is illogical. Unless of course, Ryan was lying and had seen his brother since 2010....
If he really had Ryan's ID, I believe that it'd be painfully obvious, and documented. I'd imagine it would sound something like.... "After the scene was considered safe, we then attempted to ID the suspect. We found a New Jersey (or an old Connecticut) drivers license in one of the suspect's pockets. The name on the ID was Ryan Lanza, which matched the last name Lanza which was the last name registered to the 2010 Honda Civic, but the person in the photo did not match the deceased suspect. Upon gathering this information, we ran the names and discovered that there was another Lanza by the name of Adam. We printed out his DMV blowback and went back into the school and was able to positively identify that the deceased suspect was Adam, not Ryan."
Yet despite all of this, even their own father is guilty of spreading this lie in his one and only interview.
Does this mean that Peter is complicit in this lie? Was he just told this narrative and he accepted it without question?
What about Ryan? Where's he in all this? Life for Ryan post 12/14 cannot be easy. Every time he submits a resume, every time he's interested in a girl, whenever he meets new people. He will always be a mass murder's brother who was originally named a suspect. The murderer of 20 children!! Is this thought ever on the back of their minds? Do any of them question whether or not he was truly guilty in some way?
It would seem that Ryan would have one massive lawsuit on his hands. If anyone in this entire story has a case for "defamation of character" it 'd be Ryan (sorry Lenny Pozner). But he's been totally invisible. It's as if he fell off the face of the planet after he left the Hoboken Police Station.
Why wouldn't he be demanding answers from the investigators? Why wouldn't he be pursuing a lawsuit? And why wasn't there any official statement regarding Ryan being "mistakenly" considered a suspect? It wasn't even mentioned in the State Attorney's Final Report. It addresses nearly all other "indications" of multiple suspects except for Ryan. Seriously? it's as if they're all trying to ignore that this part of the story even existed. But it did.
Unfortunately for them, by avoiding this topic altogether, it has allowed room for speculations and theories. (Besides the ones they have provided us I mean). Theories that DON'T suggest that Ryan is just some victim of misidentification. Theories that include... that Adam is Ryan, that Ryan really was involved but got away with it and let his brother take the fall. That they were both being set up for this crime but something went wrong, like a double cross.. that maybe Ryan was informed about the plot and was able to evade it. And of course... it is all just fiction.
To me, the next logical questions would be, is there any suggestion that Ryan should be considered a possible suspect? Does he have a criminal history?
The answer is... maybe?? They did do a background check but it's all redacted. All 21 pages! (CFS 1200704559 Book 8 00003333).
What about the day in question.. is there anything that might suggest that either Ryan was apart of it or was supposed to be?
Well.... the number 2 seems to pop up quite a bit.
There was 2 hoodies found on the ground next to the Honda Civic. This was the reason why first responders initially believed that there was a possibility of more than 1 shooter.
Meehan - parking lot photos #21
The car was seen with 2 doors open.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00002101 p. 2 "There was a black Honda Civic, pakred in a fire lane, parked to the right of the main entrance. The front passenger door was open there were two sweastshirts on the ground on the passenger side."
There was 2 rifles and 2 handguns. However, only the Glock 10 and the Bushmaster was used.
Tranquillo - Back-up scene photos 1 #325
Walkley - Scene photos #375
The Izhmash Saiga was left in the car (secured in the trunk by Newtown Police Officer Leonard Penna CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00258036 p. 3).
Meehan - parking lot photos #37
The Sig Sauer was found on Adam (in the black and white photo I posted above) and despite us being able to visually see it in his left front pocket, there are several reports that refute that.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 --1 p.4 "he had a camouflage colored holster strapped to his right thy.".... "I observed at least three hand guns one was in his holster, one on the floor which I believe was a glock and a third which was under his body."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00002060 p. 4 "He was wearing a plastic, thigh holster on his left leg. The holster appeared to have an automatic handgun in it. I noticed a black, glock automatic pistol about one foot away from the suspect's head."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00011399 p.2 "I observed a pistol laying next to him as well as another pistol in a holster on the male's side."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00024911 p.2 "I observed a black pistol on the floor near his body. I also observed a pistol in a holster on his body."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00025074 p.2 "As I went past room 10, I saw a young white male lying face down close to the doorway with what appeared to be camo-type clothing and a handgun strapped to one leg."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00039267 p.1 "I also saw a black pistol laying on the floor near him and another in a holster on his side."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00172105 p.3 "I observed the shooter, a white male, on his back"....He was wearing a molle vest that held magazines, a thigh holster with a pistol".... "On the floor to his right was a glock pistol in breach or jammed position."
Not to say that there wasn't any reports stating that the Sig was in his pocket or that the holster was empty.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00019903 p.2 "He was wearing an empty drop holster on his right leg and a handgun was sticking out of his left pocket. He had green colored earplugs in his ears and another handgun was next to his body on the floor"
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00030931 p.1 "He had a drop leg holster which was empty and another handgun in his left pant pocket which I recognized as a Sig Sauer.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00258158 p.3 "I observed a glock handgun which appeared to have a feeding malfunction lying on the ground."......"He was wearing a tactical leg holster on his right leg which appeared to be empty"
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00073537 p.2 "I observed a white male possibly in his early twenties who appeared to be deceased lying on the floor wearing an empty holster on his right leg.
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00151276 p.3 (ATF) "he retreated into classroom 10, produced a glock from a thigh holster, and shot himself in the head, dying instantly."
CFS 1200704597 00118939 p.32 (scene processing report) "He had an empty drop holster that was affixed to his right thigh. This drop holster was black with a camouflaged padding affixed to the back (thigh side) of the holster and camoflauge stra[s that secure the holster around the thigh" p.33 "Left trouser pocket of pants was a Sig Sauer P226 semi-automatic 9 mm pistol that was seized as Exhibit 20 (One Sig Sauer P226 9mm, S/N UU676027 handgun with an empty chamber and a magazine of eighteen (18) 'Speer 9mm Luger' live rounds. This magazine was loaded to full capacity." p.34 "Located on the floor east of the shooter was a "Glock" 10 mm semi-automatic pistol that was seized as Exhibit #19 (one "Glock" 10 mm, S/N SMA461). One round was partially loaded in the chamber, with a magazine of eight (8) rounds remaining)." (east of suspect)
But the fact that there are so many that state it was in his holster, is alarming. Some believe this could be evidence that the scene was altered.
Then, of course, there was 2 classrooms that was targeted (I have circled the Glock, Bushmaster and Adam in red).
CFS 1200704597 00235016 p. 6
The triangles are supposed to represent victims... How this could ever be taken seriously, as a real crime scene sketch is beyond my comprehension.
And originally, Peter was being reported as being dead, making that 2 parents (I covered this in "Peter Lanza Dead In Hoboken".
Then, there are 2 generalized descriptions of the suspect.
1. He was wearing a mask:
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00003250 p.2 "[redacted] stated that the children had told her taht when the man had come into their classroom, they had run out of the room, and ultimately the school. The children stated that the man had 'a shotgun' and one of the boys told her that the man had a mask."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00011235 pg.1 "We had received a description that the shooter was dressed in all black and wearing a mask."
CFS 1200704559 Book 6 00007290 p.1 "She stated she thought he had a black mask on. This alarmed me because the lone gunman who was down had no mask"
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00256315 p.2 "She described the gunman as a male, 5'8'' to 5'11'' tall, wearing a dark hat and a mask."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00005524 p.2 "[redacted] related that Natalie had said that 'he had a mask on'."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00006254 p.2 "While [redacted] was on the telephone, Hammond provided her with a description of what she had seen. Hammond related that she saw a person with a mask"
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00006299 p.2 "Hammond told her that the shooter had been wearing a mask."
And who could forget Dawn Hochsprung's interview wit the Newtown Bee from beyond the grave.
(It should be noted that later on, the Newtown Bee retracted and stated that the person they interviewed had identified herself as Dawn but wasn't Dawn.
2. That he was wearing military style clothes with a hat.
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00030129 p.2 "a man dressed in green and beige 'Army' clothes came into her classroom"
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00180063 p.2 "[redacted] described the man as tall and skinny with light skin and a light brown beard that was short, He stated that he was wearing a green army style hat with straps, a green shirt and camouflage pants."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00198959 p.3 "[redacted] said the shooter was dressed in 'army clothes' and was firing a 'bazooka'."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00198970 p. 3 "he saw a white man with all green clothing and a green hat, with black boots"
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00256448 p.1 "He was wearing a brown or camo shirt, brown pants, a hat that was like a sombrero but smaller that was also brown"..."He was also wearing sunglasses."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00258277 p.2 "described the shooter as a white guy with a heavy winter-like brown jacket, and a green shirt underneath the jacket. [redacted] stated that he believed the man was wearing army green kind of pants, and described him as having dark hair, longer on the top than on the bottom, with no bear or mustache. [redacted] was asked if the man was young or old and struggled with the answer, until he was aided by his mother, who asked if the male was younger or older than a acquaintance of their family's, at which time [redacted] stated that the shooter was about the same age. [redacted] clarified that the male that she had used as a reference was in his 20's."
CFS 1200704559 Book 5 00007937 p.2 "The man appeared white and was wearing a soft rim type hat, sunglasses (dark)"
Despite these descriptions varying a bit from one another, the jist is military style clothing with a hat.
With all of that combined, there is a theory that Ryan was supposed to get set up for this crime as well as Adam. Adam would kill Nancy, Ryan would kill Peter in Hoboken and both would go to the school together. Adam armed with the Bushmaster and the Glock, Ryan armed with the Saiga and the Sauer. Each brother would target 1 classroom each.
While this may all sound absolutely absurd, I can't help but ask if there's something to this notion.
First, it wasn't the media that claimed Peter was dead. It came straight from the Prosecutors office in New Jersey and relayed to Hoboken Police (I covered this in "Peter Lanza Dead In Hoboken")
They were also ordered to not enter the apartment until Connecticut officials could confirm information about the family. To me, this order is extremely odd. What kind of information would afford Ryan such a luxury? Were they informants? Witnesses to a major investigation? CIA? Terrorists?
Then, there's the DNA on the car. They did dust for prints but with negative results. However, there was DNA found on the exterior driver side door handles. Adam and Nancy were both eliminated.
CFS 1200704597 00124235 p. 5
(Yes, it also states that they were eliminated as contributors for the DNA on the handle area of the Bushmaster rifle, but we'll get to that in another article).
For now, what's important is that there was DNA found, and it didn't belong to Adam. On the exterior side of the driver door.... on his own car. No one else had access to that car (besides his mom, who was also eliminated). If it were a first responder's, that would be noted. So who's DNA is this? Is there a document somewhere that explains this DNA that I have somehow overlooked? If so, please correct me. If not, what the hell does this mean?
And the timeline... It doesn't seem feasible at all! It would seem that the timeline has been altered (I covered this in "The Impossible Timeline")... but maybe it was meant for 2 shooters.
I also can't help but notice a parallel between the stories in Newtown and Hoboken. Am I really supposed to believe that they wouldn't try locating Ryan's phone? This is totally asinine. Of course they would. Whether or not it was his phone they were pinging before attempting to locate Roig's is up for debate. But.. if it's possible that they were doing so around the same time they were pinging his roommate's phones... then it becomes quite interesting.
It's reasonable to believe that if they were locating his at the same time, they would've gotten a result around the same time. Just after 1:00.
It wasn't until after 1:00 when the story in Newtown began to change with huge anomalies.
1:25, Roig is no longer interested in locating her phone. The very phone she believes a mass murderer had stolen and had access to all her private information.
1:28, Barbara Halstead and Sally Cox come popping out of a storage closet, in a building that had been searched several times, in the main office that had been searched several times and where law enforcement set up a command center.
2:14, there was a failed attempt to ping a location on Roig's phone. They packed up and went back to the school. Never to talk about it again. Her phone is then located in her classroom and seized as evidence (Exhibit #86) but nothing to be done with it. What I find most interesting about this story, is that not even she talks about it anymore. In her book, she claims she went outside and realized she left it behind and used someone else's phone. No mention of this nationwide manhunt.
And just like that... like Ryan being a suspect, the topic is dropped entirely. Like it never happened.
What any of this may mean or if it's even related to Ryan is anyone's guess. Maybe I'm seeing something where's there's nothing. But this is just more evidence that we should be demanding more disclosure. For official explanations with verifiable evidence.
But... what if they can't?
The Lanzas seem to be a mystery wrapped in an enigma shrouded with confusion. The question "do we even really know them?" has come up a lot. Sure, we've been told many stories. But that's the problem... they're just stories.
Is there something more to the Lanza family than we know? Something that prevents the officials from being able to provide us with any verifiable information about them?
There is something that researcher Aryan Empires stumbled upon. A BAFT document regarding evidence seized from the home of Nancy and Adam with 54 pages redacted because they contained Grand Jury material. You can view one of his videos about that here.
CFS 1200704559 Book 2 00159702 p. 49
Grand Jury material? What case was it? Was it an old case? Current case? Who in the Lanza family was involved? And how? Were they witnesses? Suspects?
It's clearly not about the shooting. Remember, the Bushmaster and Glock were the only ones used at the school. The Savage Mark II was used to kill Nancy at the house. If it was pertaining to the shooting, I'd imagine it'd be in regards to these guns.... but we're able to see all the documents pertaining to them. Even their serial numbers and purchase dates.
Plus, the whole point of a Grand Jury trial is to see if you can prosecute someone. If their lone wolf was already dead, then who would they be attempting to prosecute?
Is it in connection with any of the Grand Jury Subpoenas within the FBI documents? Some of them were issued on 12/14. I could be wrong... but doesn't this suggest that they'd be in regards to an active investigation prior to the shooting? I can't really say that I've spent a lot of time researching the prosecution aspects of a case. I've always just been interested in catching the bad guy, not so much in prosecuting them. So like I said... I could be wrong.
Phew, finally at the end. I was really hoping that by doing this article, I could find some closure on this topic. Instead, I just have more questions. If Peter only called Shelly after hearing Ryan's name on the news while watching CNN which was at 2:11, then waited for her to come home then they called him and that is how he was first alerted to the whole ordeal, then why was he calling the house at 1:50? Which was the same time they dispatched for an ambulance. Her death hadn't even reached the news yet.
What was the info Connecticut officials were waiting to confirm?
What was it that caused them to believe he was a suspect if not for an ID?
Why is his criminal background check so long?
Did they ever try to locate his phone?
Why didn't he file a lawsuit? Or why wasn't there a public apology or some kind of explanation from the officials? They just left it up to the media and called it good.
What's up with those 54 pages and what do they have to do with the Lanzas? Do they have anything to do with the Grand Jury Subpoenas within the FBI documents?
Who's DNA was found on the car? Could it be Ryan's?
Did Ryan have any involvement? Were they really being set up? If so, by whom? And why?
Will we ever get any kind of disclosure on this case? Will they just keep dodging it with insults?
One thing is for sure... I'm never going to stop asking questions and I'm never gonna stop arguing that we need more verifiable information. That there needs to be an investigation into their investigations.
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